TORCHBEARER 2024

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shimodahito
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TORCHBEARER 2024

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good day all,
The 2023 prize has not been sent to champion Jesinofuji, as he has not responded to my message to him on this forum. If anyone has his contact info or knows if he's using a different shikona, please send me a PM.

It's time for the once-a-year invite to the easiest picking (guessing) sumo game ever. No need for daily picks, no need for pre-basho picks; just a pair of picks will last a whole year!

Here's how it works.
The symbolic TORCH starts with the last rikishi and last rank on the 2024 HATSU BANZUKE (rikishi/rank at the bottom of jonokuchi division). If the rikishi wins his bout (called a TORCH MATCH), he keeps the TORCH. If he loses, the TORCH is passed to the winner. Through the year, the TORCH will eventually make way up the banzuke as it is always passed to the winner. The object of the game is to pick the one rank and one rikishi you think will end up with the most points throughout the year's six bashos. Points are awarded to every rikishi and rank involved in a TORCH MATCH; AND to players who finish closest to the FINAL TORCH position at the end of the year.

FINAL TORCH POINTS AT THE END OF THE 2024 KYUSHU BASHO:
25 points if you picked the final TORCH holding rikishi.
25 points if you picked the final TORCH holding rank.
PLUS...
10 points to the player(s) closest to the final TORCH holding rikishi.
10 points to the player(s) closest to the final TORCH holding rank.
9 points to the 2nd closest picks.
8 points to the 3rd closest picks.
7 points to the 4th closest picks.
6 points to the 5th closest picks.
5 points to the 6th closest picks.
4 points to the 7th closest picks.
3 points to the 8th closest picks.
2 points to the 9th closest picks.
1 point to the 10th closest picks.

(so if my math is correct, a minimum of 110 points (55 rank/55 rikishi) are guaranteed to be handed out at the end of the year)

TORCH MATCH POINTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR:
3 points for every TORCH MATCH your chosen rikishi wins.
3 points for every TORCH MATCH your chosen rank wins.
1 point for every TORCH MATCH your chosen rikishi loses.
1 point for every TORCH MATCH match your chosen rank loses.

The player with the most points at the end of the year will get a prize.

For historical reference, here's where the torch ended up in previous years:
2006, J2w
2007, Ms33w (highest position J7w)
2008, J7e (highest position J6w)
2009, J5e (highest position J3e)
2010, Ms58e (highest position J3e)
2011, J6e (highest position J4w)
2012, J2e (highest position J1e)
2013, Ms48e (highest position Ms4e)
2014, Ms49e (highest position Ms3e)
2015, J6w (highest position J1w)
2016, J11e (highest position J6e)
2017, Ms10w (highest position J13w)
2018, Ms8e (highest position J2e)
2019, J7e (highest position J4e)
2020, Ms15w (highest position Ms1w)
2021, J4w (highest position J1e)
2022, Ms23e (highest position Ms1w)
2023, J5e (highest position J1e)

Highest number of points: 59 by Profomisakari in 2009.

To play, please submit:
1) the rikishi you think will get the most points between now and the end of the 2024 Kyushu Basho.
and
2) the rank you think will get the most points between now and the end of the 2024 Kyushu Basho.


The deadline for entries is one minute before the first TORCH MATCH starts... JST. Send new entries or updated entries to shimodahito(at)yahoo.com, by message on this forum, or post on this thread. For players who miss the deadline, your 2023 picks will carry over to TORCHBEARER 2024 (as long as your rikishi pick is still active).

A "wildcard" drone pick, by default will be the lowest rikishi and rank on the HATSU BANZUKE and cannot be selected by any other player.

Good luck! The game is painless...one rank pick, one rikishi pick... no daily picks needed…. and a prize.

15+ years and still going!

-shimodahito

shimodahito
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Re: TORCHBEARER 2024

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From the bottom of the banzuke, the TORCH started here:
Start-of-2024 Rank: JONOKUCHI 17 EAST
Start of 2024 Rikishi: DAISHIYAMA

…The TORCH was passed on the ceremonial wildcard first match moving to 1-0 Anryukai. Meanwhile golden rikishi pick Kyokukaiyu LOST his first match going 0-1. So usually, the torch continues with winners and the TORCH would not meet golden pick in this basho. But oddly Anryukai was next paired with Taranami – who not only had a loss, but also TWO matches (1-1). What did this mean if Taranami won?
1. Unless there is a playoff, the TORCH would only have six matches in Hatsu.
2. Now with one loss, the TORCH had a chance to get paired with golden pick.

Here's a summary of the TORCH matches:

DAY 2: Jonokuchi 17 East Daishiyama (0-0) passes the TORCH to Jonokuchi 16 East Anryukai (0-0)
DAY 5: Jonokuchi 16 East Anryukai (1-0) passes the TORCH to Jonokuchi 14 East Taranami (1-1)
DAY 8: Jonokuchi 14 East Taranami (2-1) defeats Jonokuchi 9 East Nishikiori (2-1)

Which brings us to our TORCH MATCH on Day 10:

RIKISHI
TARANAMI vs KYOKUKAIYU

RANK
JONOKUCHI 14 EAST vs JONOKUCHI 15 EAST

Player(s) up for points:
Andreas21’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Athenayama’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Bunbukuchagama’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Hakuhonofan’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Kaito's rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Kintamayama’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Ripe’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Torideyama’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Yarimotsu’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
a loss = 1 point, but a win = 3 points and an opportunity for more points in the next torch match

And for what it’s worth, NO player with a jonokuchi rikishi pick has ever won the annual TORCHBEARER top position. Will that change this year?

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Re: TORCHBEARER 2024

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And so begins a possible TORCH streak among nine coleaders with 3 points -- Day 11:

RIKISHI
KYOKUKAIYU vs ANRYUKAI

RANK
JONOKUCHI 15 EAST vs JONOKUCHI 16 EAST

Player(s) up for points:
Andreas21’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Athenayama’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Bunbukuchagama’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Hakuhonofan’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Kaito's rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Kintamayama’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Ripe’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Torideyama’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Yarimotsu’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
a loss = 1 point, but a win = 3 points and an opportunity for more points in the next torch match

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Re: TORCHBEARER 2024

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Hmmm. Rather than pair 5-1 Kyukukaiyu with the other jonokuchi 5-1 Chiyodaigo, the torkicumi makers instead pair them both against 5-1 jonidan wrestlers. So our nine coleaders with 6 points get this TORCH MATCH on Day 13:

RIKISHI
KYOKUKAIYU vs SETOYUTAKA

RANK
JONOKUCHI 15 EAST vs JONIDAN 88 EAST

Player(s) up for points:
Andreas21’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Athenayama’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Bunbukuchagama’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Hakuhonofan’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Kaito's rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Kintamayama’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Ripe’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Torideyama’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Yarimotsu’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
a loss = 1 point, but a win = 3 points and an opportunity for more points in the next torch match

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Re: TORCHBEARER 2024

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Here's a recap and Haru primer.

From the bottom of the banzuke, the TORCH started here:
Start-of-2024 Rank: JONOKUCHI 17 EAST
Start of 2024 Rikishi: DAISHIYAMA

DAY 2: Jonokuchi 17 East Daishiyama (0-0) passes the TORCH to Jonokuchi 16 East Anryukai (0-0)
DAY 5: Jonokuchi 16 East Anryukai (1-0) passes the TORCH to Jonokuchi 14 East Taranami (1-1)
DAY 8: Jonokuchi 14 East Taranami (2-1) defeats Jonokuchi 9 East Nishikiori (2-1)
DAY 10: Jonokuchi 14 East Taranami (3-1) passes the TORCH to Jonokuchi 15 East Kyokukaiyu (3-1) [3 points Andreas21 & Athenayama & Bunbukuchagama & Hakuhonofan & Kaito & Kintamayama & Ripe & Torideyama & Yarimotsu]
DAY 11: Jonokuchi 15 East Kyokukaiyu (4-1) defeats Jonokuchi 16 East Anryukai (4-1) [3 points Andreas21 & Athenayama & Bunbukuchagama & Hakuhonofan & Kaito & Kintamayama & Ripe & Torideyama & Yarimotsu]
DAY 13: Jonokuchi 15 East Kyokukaiyu (5-1) defeats Jonidan 88 East Setoyutaka (5-1) [3 points Andreas21 & Athenayama & Bunbukuchagama & Hakuhonofan & Kaito & Kintamayama & Ripe & Torideyama & Yarimotsu]

End-of-Hatsu Rikishi: KYOKUKAIYU
End-of-Hatsu Rank: JONOKUCHI 15 EAST

HARU BANZUKE RELEASE

Start-of-Haru Rikishi: KYOKUKAIYU
Start-of-Haru Rank: JONIDAN 32 WEST

Nine co-leaders with nine points each.

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Re: TORCHBEARER 2024

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Let’s get started with our nine coleaders’ TORCH MATCH on Day 1:

RIKISHI
KYOKUKAIYU vs SOGA

RANK
JONIDAN 32 WEST vs JONIDAN 33 WEST

Player(s) up for points:
Andreas21’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Athenayama’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Bunbukuchagama’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Hakuhonofan’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Kaito's rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Kintamayama’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Ripe’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Torideyama’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Yarimotsu’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYUa loss = 1 point, but a win = 3 points and an opportunity for more points in the next torch match

Again I’ll mention, NO player with a jonokuchi rikishi pick has ever won the annual TORCHBEARER top position.

standings:
all nine above with nine points each.

shimodahito
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Re: TORCHBEARER 2024

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TORCH MATCH on Day 3:

RIKISHI
KYOKUKAIYU vs HARIMAO

RANK
JONIDAN 32 WEST vs JONIDAN 31 WEST

Player(s) up for points:
Andreas21’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Athenayama’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Bunbukuchagama’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Hakuhonofan’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Kaito's rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Kintamayama’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Ripe’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Torideyama’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Yarimotsu’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
​​​​​​​a loss = 1 point, but a win = 3 points and an opportunity for more points in the next torch match

standings:
all nine above with twelve points each.

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Re: TORCHBEARER 2024

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TORCH MATCH on Day 5:

RIKISHI
KYOKUKAIYU vs KOSHINORYU

RANK
JONIDAN 32 WEST vs JONIDAN 30 EAST

Player(s) up for points:
Andreas21’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Athenayama’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Bunbukuchagama’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Hakuhonofan’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Kaito's rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Kintamayama’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Ripe’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Torideyama’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Yarimotsu’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
a loss = 1 point, but a win = 3 points and an opportunity for more points in the next torch match

standings:
all nine above with fifteen points each.

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Re: TORCHBEARER 2024

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We have a legitimate steady streak going into the TORCH MATCH on Day 7:

RIKISHI
KYOKUKAIYU vs CHIYODAIGO

RANK
JONIDAN 32 WEST vs JONIDAN 28 EAST

Player(s) up for points:
Andreas21’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Athenayama’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Bunbukuchagama’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Hakuhonofan’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Kaito's rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Kintamayama’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Ripe’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Torideyama’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Yarimotsu’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
a loss = 1 point, but a win = 3 points and an opportunity for more points in the next torch match

standings:
all nine above with eighteen points each.

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Re: TORCHBEARER 2024

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For the leading nine, a TORCH MATCH on Day 9:

RIKISHI
KYOKUKAIYU vs HAYASHIRYU

RANK
JONIDAN 32 WEST vs JONIDAN 16 WEST

Player(s) up for points:
Andreas21’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Athenayama’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Bunbukuchagama’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Hakuhonofan’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Kaito's rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Kintamayama’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Ripe’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Torideyama’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Yarimotsu’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
a loss = 1 point, but a win = 3 points and an opportunity for more points in the next torch match

standings:
all nine above with twenty one points each.

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Re: TORCHBEARER 2024

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I couldn’t remember so I looked it up -- nonet, today in a TORCH MATCH on Day 11:

RIKISHI
KYOKUKAIYU vs TOCHIMARU

RANK
JONIDAN 32 WEST vs JONIDAN 47 EAST

Player(s) up for points:
Andreas21’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Athenayama’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Bunbukuchagama’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Hakuhonofan’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Kaito's rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Kintamayama’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Ripe’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Torideyama’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
Yarimotsu’s rikishi pick is KYOKUKAIYU
a loss = 1 point, but a win = 3 points and an opportunity for more points in the next torch match

standings:
all nine above with twenty four points each.

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